her, i said, i wish i were a boy because then you could be my girlfriend. and the look she gave me, like, huh-uh, don't ever -- >> larry: don't go there. >> don't ever say that again. because i think she saw that it wasn't, like, you know, some, like, childhood -- you know, just like a little girl saying something. i think she saw i was putting the moves on her. and it scared her. she couldn't handle it. >> larry: did it ever scare you? >> did it ever scare me? >> larry: you know, approaching the world where you're going to be different. >> oh, of course, i have parents who are still alive so yeah, i mean, you know, and that's why you suppress all that, you bury it, and to try to fit in. i'm 46. i mean, you know. so back then, you know, you know, religion, everything else -- >> larry: i know. >> you know, we didn't -- we weren't exposed to gay people. so you don't know. >> larry: and your father's in the service. >> right, retired colonel. so -- >> larry: how did you tell them?